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Board members is present, that this meeting has been duly called and that notice of this meeting has been posted in accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act, Texas Government Code Chapter 551, and our invocation and pledge will be led by Regent Mark Hall. Dear God, we thank you for your blessing, for your provision, for all that you have given us in the world that we enjoy today. God, I pray that you will give us wisdom as we come to address the issues before the college that we can, with your help, make this an institution that will serve our students better in the days to come. 

So Lord, we thank you for that and we ask for your blessing in Christ's name, amen. Amen. Join me in the pledge of allegiance to the United States flag. 

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And to the Texas flag, honor the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state, under God, one and indivisible. Thank you.

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All right, well clearly I am not Gilbert Santana, and I will do my best to get through this meeting, so y'all help me out if I need it. There will be no student spotlight tonight, so we will move to the disposition of minutes. Board Audit and Investment Committee meetings March 6, 2023. 

Board Policy Committee meeting March 20th, 2023. Special Board meeting March 21st, 2023, and Board meeting March 23, 2023. So moved. 

Second. So we have a motion by Regent Guillory, and second was? Weston Cotton. Regent Cotton, thank you. 

All those in favor, say aye please. Any opposed? Okay, motion carries. Okay, report of the Chairman. 

Our Building Committee Chairman is not here, but Regent? Yes, and standing in for Mr. Fontenot, the Building Committee met a few days ago, maybe Wednesday, I'm not sure, I can't remember the date, but we had a Zoom meeting and we went over the projects that are currently ongoing. One particular concern that was shared is the additional potential cost on our student center renovation. The original design of the building that was known as the library, that original part, the windows in there are causing problems and leaking and there's been some rotting, and there's been a an estimate of having to replace those windows, which is quite substantial. 

I'm not going to mention that number because I think Annette said we were going to look at some other options, but there's also some slab issues with moisture coming up through, which has been the bane of my professional existence throughout my career, and so those are going to be some additional cost items that are going to come up in order to be able to complete that building, but the numbers are not available yet, if I'm correct. And so other than that, we reviewed all of the ongoing items, and is John Ditto here? We have our new building. He'll be beginning on the 24th. 

Okay, well he joined us in the meeting and so we will get to meet him, and that was nice to meet him at least online and have him begin to get up to speed. We'll see him soon. So we will see him soon. 

He's come to us. I'm not going to say anymore. He's come to us from Brazosport, so we've heard of that place before.

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Imagine that. And so anyway, we were glad to have him join us, and so that concludes my report. Thank you. 

And policy committee, Regent Guillory. Yes ma'am, so we met on the 20th, and you will see several policies that are on this agenda. Won't go into all of them in detail, but there are one that just kind of addresses drug use, and it's not encouraging you to do so, but it is prohibiting the fact that you can do it here. 

And then we also have one that we are not recommending that we approve, and that is CKF. And then there's a board policy that is on here that is simply just to add district numbers to our seats, just for clear clarification during election time. It has no other significance other than 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. And that is also on the agenda, and that concludes my report. 

Thank you. There was not an audit and investment committee meeting since last month, and just the report of the chairman, of course, Gilbert had a conflict with another college activity, so he's out representing the college, but I will say that several of us got to attend the Huntsville graduation this past weekend, and it was an amazing opportunity to see the great program that's going on in the prison system, and just the hope that you see in the faces of the students receiving their degrees, and the joy and the hope that you see in the parents as they watch their loved ones come down and receive a degree. And just to know that as they get out and start their lives, that they have a hope of a future, and they have an education, and it's that education that's going to give them that hope. 

So it was a wonderful experience, and I really appreciate the college allowing us to be a part of that. It was really a wonderful time, and I know that every regent that attended would say the very same thing. Thank you. 

Okay, report of the president. Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd like to start off by discussing enrollment. 

So it's hard to believe, but we are already registering for the fall semester, and we can look at enrollment in a couple of different ways depending upon the type of student that we include. One way is to include both main campus students and dual credit students, and when we compare today to where we were last year, we are actually up 75% in enrollment. If we exclude dual credit students, however, and only include main campus students, we are up 17% in enrollment. 

What makes these increases noteworthy is that we began enrollment a week later this year than we did last year. So while we are still early in the enrollment cycle, I am cautiously optimistic, and I am mostly, though, just very grateful to all of the employees at the college who are working tirelessly to make sure that our students have a seamless and ideal experience as they register for their classes. But I'll continue to keep the board updated on enrollment as we continue to move forward. 

I wanted to recognize the senior travel program. That's not something that gets talked about a great deal, but a group of 18 individuals went on a 10-day trip to Italy as part of the program. It's led by Jordan Smith, and she's our program manager for senior travel, and by all counts, it was a great trip, and we're just very pleased to have restarted this program after COVID. 

I'd also like to talk about the renovation at McNair. So about three weeks ago, Lee College welcomed a group of Boilermakers, and by the way, I didn't even know that you could do this, but the Boilermakers came to us from Enterprise Products, and they joined us in our corporate training center where we are upskilling them to become millwrights. So from Boilermakers to millwrights, and they're going to attend training at our new facilities and come to the college two times a week for 50 weeks, 5-0. 

So this is a big investment. This is the first group that's going to enjoy the new renovations at McNair, and we are looking forward to just significant growth in this area of the college, but we also plan on having a ribbon-cutting to show off the new renovations to the community, and we will let you know when we have that scheduled and on the books, and we'll get that on your calendar. And this is just kind of a hodgepodge of topics you can just kind of tell. 

I'm going to talk about volleyball next. So we have an evening pickup volleyball program that has been growing steadily, and we have expanded from one night a week to two nights a week, and we're just very pleased that our leisure program and community education is growing so nicely. And we are also exploring pickleball, and I'm really pleased about this because I cannot tell you how many community members have come up to me and asked, when are you going to have pickleball? And so, Miss Ferguson, maybe you'll let me know when it will be done and when we will have pickleball, because it is all the rage. 

So people want pickleball, so we're going to give it to them. Right, Miss Ferguson? All right. So moving on, I'd like to talk about our Small Business Development Center, or the SBDC. 

They held counseling sessions at the Liberty Center for the first time since COVID, and the director had a very full schedule of appointments. In addition, the director has a regular schedule of semi-monthly orientations for small business owners in the area to learn more about all of the free services that we have to offer. So we're very pleased to see the SBDC growing. 

Next, I'd like to move on and talk about Texas Pathways. Last month, I shared with you that we were selected as a college to participate in Talent Strong Texas Pathways by the Texas Success Center as a cadre one college, recognizing our very strong commitment to Guided Pathways. Well, last week, a group of us went to a Texas Pathways meeting in Dallas, where we spent a great deal of time focusing on the progress that we've made on our Pathways efforts, but we also took time to identify opportunities to strengthen our Pathways work as we move forward. 

So I was very proud to share the stage with our own Nicole Tunmire, who's with us, and Dr. Laura Lane Worley as we shared our journey to develop our specific approach to Guided Pathways. But I can tell you that it's just very clear that we have gained a great deal of attention because of our success with Pathways, and I'm grateful to the entire Pathways team that joined me in Dallas. We had a lot of fun. 

Next, I'd like to move on and just give the board a brief update on the branch campus proposal in Montbellevue. So the board is already aware of the difficulty that we've encountered in the conflict relating to when Barbers Hill can hold a maintenance tax election. So, as I've shared with the board, we have differing language between the election code statute and Texas Administrative Code. 

Well, unfortunately, all of the feedback that we've gotten from legal counsel tells us that we have to follow the more stringent election code statute that requires a number of different items, including a petition of voters from Montbellevue. So with everything that we have in mind in front of us, this is going to push the consideration of our application to at least January of 2024. So I know that this is not news that we wanted to hear, but we continue to remain strong in our partnership with Barbers Hill and continue to remain committed to our forward movement on establishing a Lee College branch campus in Montbellevue, and that's where we're going. 

So I'll continue to keep the board posted as we learn more. Next, I want to also mention the Huntsville Center commencement, and I want to thank the board members who were able to attend the commencement ceremony at the Wynn unit. It was my first time being able to experience our amazing students celebrate their hard-earned accomplishments, and I've often been heard saying that the Huntsville Center program was one of the main reasons why I was attracted to Lee College. 

It's truly the most inspirational program, and I am privileged to serve our students there. So my thanks go out to Donna Zuniga and to David Mohlman for all of their efforts to make this a special occasion. So thank you. 

Moving on, I want to talk about the legislative session. As I've shared with the board, last week was quite eventful for community colleges in the Texas House. Last Tuesday, Representative Gary Van Dever laid out House Bill 8 to the full House for consideration, and the following day House Bill 8 was passed on third reading by a vote of 145 to 1, and thank goodness that 1 was not one of our legislators. 

It was one of Paris College's legislators. Anyways, but it's been a real team effort in Austin from a strong group of stakeholders on behalf of our community colleges, but the most important thing is the unity of our institutions behind this bill, all 50 community colleges. So the engrossed version of the bill, which is an actual term, I didn't realize this, so it's the stage in a bill's legislative process where it's been passed in the chamber in which it was filed and all of the amendments to the bill have been incorporated into the text, and then it's forwarded to the second house for consideration. 

But that has now been received by the Senate, and we are working closely with the staff of Senator Brandon Creighton on the next steps for House Bill 8, and we're hoping that they will adopt it as House Bill 8, and we expect the bill to move quickly over the next two weeks. So there will likely be some technical amendments added on to the Senate side, and I will definitely provide more information as that becomes available. Last week I shared our first draft of data runs, and it's just, again, very, very preliminary, and I've shared with staff that our priority in setting our budget is to pretend that we are flat, and not just to pretend, but to plan to be flat, because we have no idea what will happen, not only when it's finally codified, but also there will be changes midstream. 

So we don't know how this is going to go, and it's going to be very important to have a very conservative approach fiscally. So I'll continue to keep you updated, and Annette will continue to keep us updated on our budget as we move forward. But before I finish, I just wanted to point out that each of you at your place should have a copy of Polaris. 

This is a publication and magazine that has been created by our amazing marketing department under the direction of our own Brian Waddell, the Executive Director of Marketing and Public Affairs, and I am sure you will agree that they did a knockout, bang-up job on this, and it is just beautiful. So at your leisure, please take time to review it. We will be publishing Polaris twice a year, and we look forward to sharing it with you the next time we publish it. 

That concludes my report. Thank you. Before you go on anymore, I want to make one comment about the senior trips. 

I've been on a couple of them. They let me in. I wasn't quite old enough, but really enjoyed them. 

They're well done, well planned, went off, and very, very interesting. So if anybody out there qualifies, I would suggest looking at it, because it's cost-effective, and they're always very interesting and have a lot of differing places that they go. I mean, Alaska, they did the Ballooner Festival in Scottsdale. 

They've gone on the Leaf Tour up in the Northeast, Italy. I think they went to Scotland one time. Wonderful program. 

Except for the time when some of them got stranded because they got COVID. But other than that, thank you. And it's true, we've got nothing but positive feedback about that program.

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Thank you, Regent Cotton. Moving on to informational reports, report of Lee College resignations and or retirements. There are none to report. 

And then we will move financial report. Annette Ferguson. Board of Regents, Dr. Villanueva. 

We are going to be covering the financial results year-to-date through March 31st. Seventh month of our fiscal year, 58 percent of our operating expenses have been recognized. Our cash position remains strong. 

We're doing really well as far as cash goes. Our revenue for tuition and fees, we've talked about this a number of times, we are above what we had budgeted. You can see right now we're at 89.3 percent of our budget. 

Our summer revenue will typically run somewhere between 11 to 13 percent of our budget. So we will anticipate right now that we should be over our budgeted amount. State appropriations, again, they tell us what that number is. 

So we do pretty good at budgeting that one. Our taxes, we're right on track to collect what we had budgeted. We did receive another small payment of our revenue in lieu of tax, so that was another pretty nice surprise. 

Other revenue and interest income, we received a nice little check from TDCJ this month. It was a little over $130,000. Also, you can see on our interest income, we're outperforming what we had initially budgeted. 

Our restricted funds, again, most of these grants are where we front the money and then we go and pull it down. So right now there's about $400,000 that we need to pull down, which we will as soon as the funds are available. Looking at our budget versus year-to-date projected actual, again, we're projecting our tuition and fees to be over our budget.

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Our district taxes would be over and our other, which was the interest income and other income, is also scheduled to be above what we had budgeted. Looking at our total projected net revenue, we're projecting an operating surplus of about $4 million. This detail here, it looks a little whoppy-jawed. 

You can see our payroll is well under what it had been in the past, and so I would just remind you that we changed our budgeting process and we were only budgeting 95% of what we thought our total payroll was going to be. The other expenses looks like it's way out of whack, but really that is related to bookstore charges, and so there's revenue that offsets part of that, and also it was just a wild guess whenever we first set that budget up. We are monitoring that budget on a separate detail to show the revenue and the expense, and as we start truing up some of the reconciliations of the invoices from BiblioU and also from some of the outside vendors, then we'll be able to provide a complete detail of the bookstore operations. 

Can I ask a question before you move on from this about the budgeting on the salaries? This is showing a surplus. I know what we did because I pushed that, you know. We're still $718,000 under what we budgeted for payroll, even though we budgeted 95%. 

That's correct. Do you expect that to be a trend in the future? It's been pretty stable the last couple of months. It hasn't actually gone down, or the gap hasn't gotten larger. 

In the prior years, I don't know if you really remember, but that number would be more like in the $2-3 million mark. So we're getting close to the balance. What percentage would this represent? I don't know off the top of my head, but I could certainly get you that information. 

Looking at our expenses, salary, and benefits, we're pretty much just right on target as far as the percent of total expenses. So salaries represent 61%, operating expenses are about 27%, and our debt payments are about 12% of our total budget. Looking at the detail for the month, you can see that salary and benefits, we were a little bit under what we had budgeted, our operating costs under as well, and debt service was just slightly over. 

Year-to-date, same story. Salary and benefits under operating expenses are pretty close, but a little under, and then debt services is right there as well. Budget versus year-to-date actual. 

Again, you can see that we are projecting out that we will be slightly under budget on salary and benefits as well as operating costs. And that is it, unless y'all have any questions for me. Thank you. 

Thank you. Thank you. Public comment? No one signed to speak up, speak Madam Chair. 

Okay. Items of action. Personnel. 

So the administration, consideration of new hires, the administration recommends that the board approve the new hires as presented below. I will do my best to say these names as correctly as possible. Coach Casey, Mr. Yide Kai, Program Analyst, Mr. Manuel Garcia, Grant Accountant, Mr. Jonathan Harris, Assistant Director of Purchasing, Miss Alyssa Hernandez, Academic Advisor, Impact Early College High School, Miss Ashley Iwawani, Program Manager, Industrial Cross-Credit Programs, Miss Victoria Hamilio, Program Manager, Small Business Development Center.

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Thank you. Regent Guillory made the motion and Regent Cotton, any comment or questions? Hearing none, all in favor say aye. Aye. 

Any opposed? Motion carries. Let me get back out of here. Apologize here guys. 

I am trying to get myself back out of here to get to the next. I'm getting there. I wish I had some quick jokes like Gilbert would have, but I do not have any. 

And new business. Consideration of adoption of board policy revisions for local policies. The Administration and Board Policy Committee recommend that the board approve and adopt the revisions to local board policies as presented and recommended by Texas Association of School Boards TASB updates 35, 42, 43, and 44. 

And you all see the detail there. And I'll make the motion that we approve with the exception of CKF. What was the exception again? With the exception of CKF. 

Okay. We have a motion by Regent Guillory, a second by Regent Hemsel. Any questions or comments? I just think we need to understand for sure that when we vote we are voting to exclude CKF. 

That is correct. It is not going to be included in one of those things. Which one covered the naming of the districts or assigning those? BBB. 

Can you roughly or quickly explain that? Or are you saying we're gonna each of us be assigned a district? No. You'll just be assigned a number. So we're still at large.

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So the at-large does not change. Nothing changes except you will just have a number. So it's not District 1, District 2. There's no districts. 

So just be the place. Yeah. Position 1, 2, 3. And so position 1, 2, 3. And the number has no value. 

So it doesn't. One, if you're 1 or 2, 1 isn't better than 2. All the numbers have the equal amount because it's just naming the place. Yeah. 

Mark, I called Gina right away as soon as I saw that. I couldn't understand it. It reminds me too much of City Council positions. 

It's gonna be confusing. Would it be possible? There's no districts here. No districts.

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That's correct. Everything is still at large. Would it be possible to have them like A, B, C, D, E, F, and G instead of numbers so it wouldn't be confusing? I'm sure it could be. 

That wasn't the recommendation by TASB, but I'm assuming that we can do that. But I mean just to keep it. But what would be, what would make it, neither one have significance. 

It doesn't add any value. It doesn't take any value away. So what would. 

I think it could easily be confusing whenever we, because I'm assuming when there's an election, you're gonna be, you're gonna have your name and A beside or 1 beside it. And that's gonna be confusing with District 1, with city and in school versus having. Come on. 

Because it's not. I mean to me, and she can explain it, but for me, anything that you change for the first time it's going to require some form of explanation. And so you can educate people, but I don't think that's a reason not to make the change just because it may cause us to have to explain because it's the first time it's been done in the history of this college. 

But I don't believe that's a reason not to move forward. Is this particular seat here going to be 5, we'll say? So this is a requirement. So we are required to put a value on every position on the board. 

And as Regent Guillory explained, it really has no meaning other than the fact that it is seat number whatever it is. Your question as to whether we could put letters rather than numbers, everything that I've seen has said you are to number the places, but we can certainly, you know, take another look at it. But I can't answer why other than the fact that they've told us that's what we have to do. 

Can I ask a question that may help clear something up for me? I'm with, I remember in past days, our school district and maybe even the council had positions. And so when someone signs up to run in a future Lee College election, are they gonna, are we still going to be taking the top three vote getters or are they going to be signing up to run for position one, position two, position three? Because that's what I've seen. All of them are still at large. 

Everything is still at large. So the ones that will be up. So if my seat right now, we just finished, it will still be at large. 

It's still at large limit. So right now we just finished an election. Let's just say I was four, Judy is six and Gilbert was eight. 

Then the positions that are up for election at large is four, six and eight period. And when it's still it's still the top three go getters and they will feel those three positions in no particular order. It doesn't have any value and it doesn't take away. 

It's not changing it. There's no redistricting. You don't get, you know, a certain group. 

We're still that large for our service area. So the position like you keep you saying it has no meaning. I'm just wondering why they did this begin with because previously used to run at large for a position specific position. 

And so I want to make sure that it will not change the way our elections are held. How our election, but those numbers will be assigned somewhere on the sign up period or the ballot or or somewhere, right? We don't know that we don't know. I don't think so. 

Um, the way it was explained to us and I agree with you that I don't see a lot of value in doing this. However, they didn't really ask me, which I find very hard to believe, but they did not. And so, um, we and we can't say that we're not going to do it. 

Right, right. Suggesting that I'm just trying to be sure we understand what we're doing. And and whenever it comes time to make this numbering that we make it logical and toward it doesn't be confusing with the same election when people are running for district 123 and then you put a 123, you know, possibly in the in the same election. 

I don't know how it's gonna be on the ballot or when they sign up. Do I have to sign up for a certain position or do I sign up for positions 123? No, you just sign up. You don't sign up for a position. 

You just sign up because our elections are at large and it won't be confusing from one entity to the next because all of our stuff is not on the same ticket. So if you're running for city council, it's going to be under the city of Bay Town for those seats. And then the school district is going to be under Goose Creek Independent School District with there's just the way that it is now. 

And then it will be Lee College with those three at large positions. And the number of whatever that place is will also be there. But it's not going to compete with the other entities to cause the confusion. 

Okay, so when we run an election, we're going to do it just like we've always done. People are going to sign up top three vote getters and then they're going are going to be the winners. Say seven sign up the top three and then they will be plugged in to whatever position like randomly or something. 

I don't know how they whatever the place is. If it's an incumbent, they'll probably just retain the number they had. If it is a new member, then they're going to probably assume the number of the person that they took the place of. 

If there were two new ones out of the three, then, you know, it will just be like you said, a random thing. Because again, there's no real meaning to the numbers other than saying we have nine places on our board. So nothing that you were presented from, is this coming from TASB? Yes. 

Addressed, they did they address specifically my question? No, sir. They did not? No, sir. So these numbers are called what positions or what did you call them? It just it just said that we have to number each seat on the board. 

And that's the way I looked at it was seats. I'm seat one, of course, and two and three and four and five and six and seven and eight and nine. And then what you're running for is for a place so you can get a seat. 

Okay, that's, I mean, that's what you're presenting. I just, since I have seen the others. That's my interpretation. 

Okay. Take it for what it's worth. And it was free, so you know what it's worth. 

It doesn't matter. We have to do this. Is that what they're saying? We have to? Yes, sir. 

And it's not going to impact the way that our elections are held. It does not change anything within the election process at all. I'm looking at BBB local. 

Is that? That is correct, sir. Okay, so this isn't illegal. It's not.

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Well, if we have to do it, wouldn't it be illegal? Is it illegal? Yeah, yeah. So why didn't a local? Right. Okay. 

Will all colleges that have this place? If they have at-large elections, then yes. Any more comment? That took a little more than I thought it would. That's okay. 

All right. All in favor, say aye. Aye. 

Opposed? Motion carries. Okay. Consideration of my books for students in the Huntsville Center Prison Education Program. 

The administration recommends that the board approve implementation of my books as the method for charging students for textbooks, course materials, supplies, and equipment to students in the Huntsville Center Prison Education Program beginning in fall 2023. The my books fee will be $27.50 per credit hour and only applies to courses that have a required textbook or required course materials. This is the same fee that is applied to all other Lee college students. 

Don't move. We have a motion made by Regent Alfaro, second by Regent Hall. Any comments or questions? Yeah, I have a question. 

Recharging them by the credit hour versus the course? For books? Yeah, but when I always bought books for courses, I just bought a book for the course. I didn't buy the book by the credit hour. A comment more than a question. 

Okay, I was going to say, I'm waiting for the question. That, that's, that's true and that's, that's the way we all used to buy books in the past, but this allows us to have an arrangement with this organization, BWU, who we've contracted with to have a more cost-effective set of textbooks for or access to texts for students. It's saving us quite a bit and saving students quite a bit in the end. 

Are we charged by the credit hour from through them? No, we're charged a flat amount. These are electronic or hardback books? We, the majority of them are electronic, but a student may opt to have a hard copy. I'm just thinking that at the prison, they don't always have access to a PC or something, but if they had a book, they could maybe take it to their home and study if they wanted to read, right? Well, they don't have, they don't live at a home, they live in prison. 

Yeah, their places, their home. Tiny homes. No, they live in a prison. 

That's their home. They get to their room. So, I mean, I mean, are we, could we, could we possibly be restricting someone from not having access to their book? Dr. Walters? And you'll recall that we entered into that program during the pandemic, which allowed students to continue to be enrolled in the Huntsville Center program. 

Prior to that, there were no electronic, there was no electronic access to laptops and units. I believe that was Atlas, is that what, wasn't it Atlas? ATLO. So, the answer is, they'll have access to their tablet. 

Very simple. And they'll have access. In their home. 

Yeah. They get to take that back with them to their cell? Home. No, I didn't think that was the case, yeah. 

So, they do not get to take that back with them to their home. Oh, they did. Information. 

Thank you, Dr. Walters. Always aware of information. Any other comments or questions? All in favor say aye.

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Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Next item, consideration of approval of AE fee increase for the Liberty cosmetology renovations contract to PBK Architects. 

The administration recommends that the board authorize the president or her designee to negotiate final terms and approve the AE fee increase for $1,238.34. That is needed for additional Liberty cosmetology renovation services. We have a motion by Regent Guillory, a second by Regent Hall. Any questions or comments? These were all reviewed by the building committee. 

Great. All right. All in favor say aye. 

Aye. Any opposed? And motion carries. And next item, consideration of approval of AE fee increase for the roof coating and sealant project contract to BEAM PBK Architects. 

The administration recommends that the board authorize the president or her designee to negotiate final terms and approve the AE fee increase for $13,112.00. That is needed for the roof coating and sealant project services. So moved. Second. 

We have a motion by Regent Guillory, a second by Regent Alfaro. Questions, comments? Oh I'm sorry was it Oh sorry Wes, I thought it came over there. I'll try to speak up a little more. 

I'll turn my hearing aids up. Any questions or comments? All in favor say aye. Aye. 

Any opposed? None. And the next item, consideration of approval of commissioning services for the student center renovations and addition project to LEAF Engineers. The administration recommends that the board authorize the president or her designee to negotiate final terms and approve the fee of $21,250.00. That is needed for the commissioning services of the student center renovations and addition project. 

Moved. Second. We have a motion by Regent Guillory and a second by Regent Hall. 

Questions? All right. Hearing none. All in favor say aye. 

Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Next item, consideration of approval of AE fee increase for the student center renovations and addition contract to BBK Architects. 

The administration recommends that the board authorize the president or her designee to negotiate final terms and approve the AE fee increase of $40,460.00. That is needed for additional student service renovations and addition services. Don't move. Second. 

Got a motion by Regent Cotton. I'm gonna give Regent Hemsel the second since it's the first time he's spoken up tonight. Well, for that. 

No, it's not the first time you spoke up. Any questions or comments? Hearing none. All in favor say aye. 

Aye. Any opposed? None. Motion carries. 

There will be no executive session. Matters? Anybody have any matters of concern for future agendas? I would just like to go back to the issue on the election and ask Annette if I could contact the powers to be on that policy issue on the voter and specifically ask them even though it's in that large election will people be signing up for positions because that could have a huge impact on how. I think Gina said no. 

No. They said no. At large. 

So that number will be anywhere on the ballot or anything. Just follow up. I know at large means everybody gets to vote but position I mean you could have an at-large election and you could have say myself if I were running again in position six and everybody runs and somebody runs in my position and beats me but I get vote you know I'm just you don't have a position you just you have a chair sir. 

Isn't it just more like a little placeholder we've got nine regents you've got a two-year term of one two three a two-year term of four five six a two-year term of seven eight nine. I'm gonna call it a point of order because it's an item we already voted on. I know we already voted on it. 

I'm just making it so we're not discussing it. You've asked her to read so she can do that but we can't go back and talk about it. It's just for informational purposes for the next election. 

Okay. Do you feel like you still need that information? Because whoever's running in the next election it's a big game-changer. I'm not sure who's up next. 

You're up next aren't you? You just keep talking about it. She's gonna get the information. Yeah that information will be given to you. 

So the last thing is. Not just me everybody. Okay so the last thing is adjournment. 

Oh yay. Anyone like to make that motion? Anyone opposed please remain seated. So moved. 

So moved. I didn't hear a second. Second. 

All right Regent Guillory and Regent Hall. Okay thanks guys appreciate it y'all have a great evening.